Girder and orb will not share USB UIRT !!

Been trying to use girder concurrent with Orb and the USB UIRT will not work with both programs. If Girder is loaded Orb yield a network error when trying to connect to live TV.
If Girder is unloaded then Orb live TV work fine and the UIRT changes channel just fine thru Orb.
If I specifically disable the USB UIRT plugin in girder and/or disable input option then Orb Live TV works perfectly.
I have posted on the Orb forums and they think it is a sharing issue with Girder. Posting this on the Girder forums and they think it is an issue with the USB UIRT plugin.
Please help, I need to run Girder and Orb at the same time.
If Girder is unloaded then Orb live TV work fine and the UIRT changes channel just fine thru Orb.
If I specifically disable the USB UIRT plugin in girder and/or disable input option then Orb Live TV works perfectly.
I have posted on the Orb forums and they think it is a sharing issue with Girder. Posting this on the Girder forums and they think it is an issue with the USB UIRT plugin.
Please help, I need to run Girder and Orb at the same time.